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Maher A.
Verified Buyer
WD: All Terrain M600 FS
I have done a ton of research looking for the perfect e-bike. M2S bike was the perfect bike. Top value for money first class technology and components. Most importantly this bike is FUN FUN FUN.
DC D.
Verified Buyer
WD: All Terrain M600 FS
Spent a lot of time looking at everything I could find in the full suspension class with respect to speed, value, and not looking like a motorcycle. This bike is the bomb! Very fast, goes for at least 40 miles at full speed. Have personally risen it for over 1400 miles in the first two months of owning it. Commute daily from suburbs to Washington DC. Over 13 miles each way. Bike gets a lot of attention as I blaze by and everyone is curious about it. It is so much fun, and the Bafang peddle assist mid drive is smooth and powerful as well as silent. Love this bike; you will too!!
Rick S.
Verified Buyer
All Terrain FS
The M2S Kush is fun!
And it really is an “all terrain” bike.
It looks like “we” (me and this bike) are going to have some good times together. And it's easy to start thinking in terms of “we.” Together, we climb these hills.
Today; we climbed the dirt road up to Kalamazoo Pass – about a 3,000 foot climb. I've done this climb before. It's always been tough… quite steep. And there's a section I've only been able to push my bike up.
Today; I rode right through that section without having to stop, rest, or push. It was sweet.
We made it up to the pass a little quicker, even though I stopped along the way and to take some pictures (and to just enjoy being in the mountains).
But don't get me wrong. I was still riding that ebike hard. The smaller motor only helps you. You still have to work. But with the motor, I was finally able to stay below my anaerobic threshold. Mountain bike climbing is hard. There are a lot of sprints and rests. But now I can rest at speed – even on the steep climbs.
I have found that when I ride with platform pedals, if I occasionally do out of the saddle sprints; my knees don't hurt. With the M2S Plush; it's pretty easy to effectively “shift” into a higher gear without having to stress the drive train. Just drop a two or three assist levels. And bam! Sprint or the bike will stop.
However, when climbing in the saddle and you feel the need to downshift – use the shifter first. I recommend downshifting to the lowest gear before you try cranking up the pedal assist. If you don't, when you tire out and stop pushing, the motor will whine. Apparently, it doesn't want to do all the work on a tough climb. I find that if I hammer when the motor whines, it will stop whining. This didn't happen often, but it kept me pushing throughout the climb.
What I really like is how the M2S Kush still feels like a mountain bike. The torque sensor really makes a difference from my other ebike. There is no throttle, but I didn't really need it. If you prefer motorcycles, this may not be the ebike for you. But I've been mountain biking for 30 years, and this is just what I wanted.
The battery holds a lot of charge. But not quite as much as I had hoped. The climb used up just over half of my charge. I had been hoping that I would have been able to keep it under half so that I could be able to double my range. Instead, it looks like I will be able to get at least 50 percent more range. Obviously, still quite impressive. (And when M2S bikes sells spare batteries, two batteries ought to get me triple my effective mountain bike range.)
There are five levels of assist. On my climb, I never found it necessary to go above level four. So, in my opinion, this is just the right sized motor. Bigger motors weigh more, use more battery, and cost more. I favor the tradeoff that feels more like a mountain bike.
The long wheelbase works well on dirt roads – which really should be where you ride it. Ebikes are essentially a type of ATV. Leave the tight switchback hiking trails for the hikers.
The M2S Kush is a rocket on the downhills. At almost 70 pounds, it wants to go downhill fast. And with those fat tires, I never felt like I might lose traction and skid out. Therefore, I'd like to give the best compliment I can give a mountain bike; the M2S Kush is confidence inspiring.
And with the combination of fat tires and full suspension, it sure rides smooth.
I found the seatpost just a little short. If you are over 5 foot 10 inches tall, you'll probably need to get a longer seatpost. M2S should offer a longer seatpost option. Unless you have a favorite saddle, the stock saddle is plenty good enough. If you adjust the angle on the stem, double check to make sure it is securely tight. And I broke the connectors off of the light while I was pulling off the bubble wrap. Oops.
Overall, I find the M2S Kush quite adequate for real mountain biking. And at it's retail price, it's a bargain.
And it really is an “all terrain” bike.
It looks like “we” (me and this bike) are going to have some good times together. And it's easy to start thinking in terms of “we.” Together, we climb these hills.
Today; we climbed the dirt road up to Kalamazoo Pass – about a 3,000 foot climb. I've done this climb before. It's always been tough… quite steep. And there's a section I've only been able to push my bike up.
Today; I rode right through that section without having to stop, rest, or push. It was sweet.
We made it up to the pass a little quicker, even though I stopped along the way and to take some pictures (and to just enjoy being in the mountains).
But don't get me wrong. I was still riding that ebike hard. The smaller motor only helps you. You still have to work. But with the motor, I was finally able to stay below my anaerobic threshold. Mountain bike climbing is hard. There are a lot of sprints and rests. But now I can rest at speed – even on the steep climbs.
I have found that when I ride with platform pedals, if I occasionally do out of the saddle sprints; my knees don't hurt. With the M2S Plush; it's pretty easy to effectively “shift” into a higher gear without having to stress the drive train. Just drop a two or three assist levels. And bam! Sprint or the bike will stop.
However, when climbing in the saddle and you feel the need to downshift – use the shifter first. I recommend downshifting to the lowest gear before you try cranking up the pedal assist. If you don't, when you tire out and stop pushing, the motor will whine. Apparently, it doesn't want to do all the work on a tough climb. I find that if I hammer when the motor whines, it will stop whining. This didn't happen often, but it kept me pushing throughout the climb.
What I really like is how the M2S Kush still feels like a mountain bike. The torque sensor really makes a difference from my other ebike. There is no throttle, but I didn't really need it. If you prefer motorcycles, this may not be the ebike for you. But I've been mountain biking for 30 years, and this is just what I wanted.
The battery holds a lot of charge. But not quite as much as I had hoped. The climb used up just over half of my charge. I had been hoping that I would have been able to keep it under half so that I could be able to double my range. Instead, it looks like I will be able to get at least 50 percent more range. Obviously, still quite impressive. (And when M2S bikes sells spare batteries, two batteries ought to get me triple my effective mountain bike range.)
There are five levels of assist. On my climb, I never found it necessary to go above level four. So, in my opinion, this is just the right sized motor. Bigger motors weigh more, use more battery, and cost more. I favor the tradeoff that feels more like a mountain bike.
The long wheelbase works well on dirt roads – which really should be where you ride it. Ebikes are essentially a type of ATV. Leave the tight switchback hiking trails for the hikers.
The M2S Kush is a rocket on the downhills. At almost 70 pounds, it wants to go downhill fast. And with those fat tires, I never felt like I might lose traction and skid out. Therefore, I'd like to give the best compliment I can give a mountain bike; the M2S Kush is confidence inspiring.
And with the combination of fat tires and full suspension, it sure rides smooth.
I found the seatpost just a little short. If you are over 5 foot 10 inches tall, you'll probably need to get a longer seatpost. M2S should offer a longer seatpost option. Unless you have a favorite saddle, the stock saddle is plenty good enough. If you adjust the angle on the stem, double check to make sure it is securely tight. And I broke the connectors off of the light while I was pulling off the bubble wrap. Oops.
Overall, I find the M2S Kush quite adequate for real mountain biking. And at it's retail price, it's a bargain.
Arthur
Verified Buyer
All Terrain R750 HT
Just came back from a week at Assateague Island in MD. Pulled all my gear from the car to the camp site with the trailer. Then rode 5 days lightly just family fun stuff. Pulled my kid, etc. At day 5 I had 3/4 of a full battery left and towed all my gear back to the car. (many loads) I must say the bike held up as good as I could've hoped. Very happy with the bike. I know it has a lot of future potential!
Sam Smith
Verified Buyer
WD Dual Sport | R500+ Electric Bike 27.5+
Had a chance to take the new Dual Sport out for a ride and had an absolute blast. Plenty of power to climb steep hills pretty easily and the full suspension made riding the rougher trails lots of fun. Definitely recommend this bike if you're looking for a fun ride with throttle and a fast top speed.
Rick B.
Verified Buyer
XC Sport Max | Electric Commuter Bike
I have had this bike for about a month and I am really enjoying it. It is the right balance between street and off road that I can go nearly everywhere. The tires have a good smooth ride on the streets and yet can go on easy dirt trails. Love that hills are a non-factor now in my rides. I had an early problem with my chain that I took care of. Documentation on display was lacking. I would highly recommend this bike!
Darrell C.
Verified Buyer
All Terrain R750 HT
If you are looking for a fat tire electric bike that can go anywhere...this is it!!!!! Eric is a great guy to deal with. Answered my questions. The bike is everything he said it is and more!! I'm a surviving cancer patient and needed something to get me off the couch and outside. This bike allows me to cruise or get a workout. I certainly appreciate Eric's expertise in getting me started with my All Terrain 750.
Colt M.
Verified Buyer
All Terrain R750 HT
OVERVIEW: Shipping: A+
Set-Up: A+
Build Quality/ Aesthetics: A
Initial Thoughts: A+
150 Mile Review: A+
Customer Service: A++
SHIPPING: The bike showed up in Idaho three days after it shipped via Old Dominion from North Carolina. The delivery guy drove up in a 2017 Pick-Up and the only thing in his truck was my new All Terrain R750. Best shipping experience I've ever had.
SET-UP: Set-Up was very intuitive, even for me (as I have had very little experience with bicycles in general). A tool kit was included with everything I needed. All I needed to do was set the Handle Bar, Front Wheel, Front brake, and program the LCD display to my preferences. The whole process took about 20 minutes. Toughest part was being careful aligning the disc between the brake pads making sure to not damage the pads. Overall, everything went very smoothly with Set-Up.
BUILD QUALITY/AESTHETICS: By and large, the build quality is great. Weld points all look good. Hydraulic disc brakes have been awesome. Paint was smooth and consistent (I chose Matte Forest Green). Tires are awesome with a good tread for on road or off. Mozo forks are adjustable with lockout which has been very useful. I love the understated look of the bike. branding is minimal and looks very clean. The only complaint I have (and reason this section got an A instead of A+) is that the battery pack has a little play in it when going over rocks/rough stuff. It has worked flawlessly, but I feel like the bond between bike and battery could potentially be improved. Again, this is very minor and has not hindered performance in any way through 150 miles.
INITIAL THOUGHTS: This bike has some Juice! I'm 6'6" and weigh around 240 lbs, so I had concerns about whether or not the motor would get bogged down under load. Nope. I have a road/trail behind my house that gradually gains 1300 feet over 3.3 miles. Riding this hill several times a week, I have been averaging around 23 mph going up (uphill whole way)... What's crazier is that in Pedal Assist level 9, I never even needed to take the bike out of the highest gear the whole climb! Don't get me wrong, it was a work out, but for that to even be possible for someone that doesn't train/do much cardio is unreal.
150 MILE REVIEW: I have taken this bike on some technical/difficult single tracks over the last month or so and have been very impressed with its performance. I've gone over sharp rocks, roots, creeks/springs, etc... tires are still perfect. I've wrecked the bike twice. Once in melting snow, and once on a dirt rut while I wasn't watching the trail. Both sides of the bike. No problems whatsoever. Longest ride I've been on was around 16 miles with over 4100 feet of elevation change. I used pedal assist between 5-9 and had well over half battery life left after the ride. Pretty impressive considering it was a rough/slopey single track, and I'm heavier than most. In general, the motor seemed to do better when I kept the speed over 5mph (which has rarely been an issue). All and all, this bike has exceeded my performance expectations in pretty much every way.
Customer Service: I have yet to deal with an owner of company that is more kind/genuine/available than Eric at M2S Bikes. Despite undoubtedly having a super busy schedule, Eric has gladly and thoroughly answered my questions about general preventative maintenance and even went so far as to pay for a brake bleed (that I very well could have caused) saying it was possible that air got in the brake line during manufacturing. Eric is a high quality guy making high quality products at very competitive prices. Don't make the mistake of buying from someone else!
My two cents.
-Colt
Set-Up: A+
Build Quality/ Aesthetics: A
Initial Thoughts: A+
150 Mile Review: A+
Customer Service: A++
SHIPPING: The bike showed up in Idaho three days after it shipped via Old Dominion from North Carolina. The delivery guy drove up in a 2017 Pick-Up and the only thing in his truck was my new All Terrain R750. Best shipping experience I've ever had.
SET-UP: Set-Up was very intuitive, even for me (as I have had very little experience with bicycles in general). A tool kit was included with everything I needed. All I needed to do was set the Handle Bar, Front Wheel, Front brake, and program the LCD display to my preferences. The whole process took about 20 minutes. Toughest part was being careful aligning the disc between the brake pads making sure to not damage the pads. Overall, everything went very smoothly with Set-Up.
BUILD QUALITY/AESTHETICS: By and large, the build quality is great. Weld points all look good. Hydraulic disc brakes have been awesome. Paint was smooth and consistent (I chose Matte Forest Green). Tires are awesome with a good tread for on road or off. Mozo forks are adjustable with lockout which has been very useful. I love the understated look of the bike. branding is minimal and looks very clean. The only complaint I have (and reason this section got an A instead of A+) is that the battery pack has a little play in it when going over rocks/rough stuff. It has worked flawlessly, but I feel like the bond between bike and battery could potentially be improved. Again, this is very minor and has not hindered performance in any way through 150 miles.
INITIAL THOUGHTS: This bike has some Juice! I'm 6'6" and weigh around 240 lbs, so I had concerns about whether or not the motor would get bogged down under load. Nope. I have a road/trail behind my house that gradually gains 1300 feet over 3.3 miles. Riding this hill several times a week, I have been averaging around 23 mph going up (uphill whole way)... What's crazier is that in Pedal Assist level 9, I never even needed to take the bike out of the highest gear the whole climb! Don't get me wrong, it was a work out, but for that to even be possible for someone that doesn't train/do much cardio is unreal.
150 MILE REVIEW: I have taken this bike on some technical/difficult single tracks over the last month or so and have been very impressed with its performance. I've gone over sharp rocks, roots, creeks/springs, etc... tires are still perfect. I've wrecked the bike twice. Once in melting snow, and once on a dirt rut while I wasn't watching the trail. Both sides of the bike. No problems whatsoever. Longest ride I've been on was around 16 miles with over 4100 feet of elevation change. I used pedal assist between 5-9 and had well over half battery life left after the ride. Pretty impressive considering it was a rough/slopey single track, and I'm heavier than most. In general, the motor seemed to do better when I kept the speed over 5mph (which has rarely been an issue). All and all, this bike has exceeded my performance expectations in pretty much every way.
Customer Service: I have yet to deal with an owner of company that is more kind/genuine/available than Eric at M2S Bikes. Despite undoubtedly having a super busy schedule, Eric has gladly and thoroughly answered my questions about general preventative maintenance and even went so far as to pay for a brake bleed (that I very well could have caused) saying it was possible that air got in the brake line during manufacturing. Eric is a high quality guy making high quality products at very competitive prices. Don't make the mistake of buying from someone else!
My two cents.
-Colt
Kelly N.
Verified Buyer
All Terrain R750 HT
The bike showed well packaged and had no shipping damage. I assembled the bike, the battery was fully charged and I was off riding. As soon as you start going the petal assist kicks in. It seems to be a heavy duty bike, I have not ran through a full cycle on the battery yet. But very impressed this far.
James
Verified Buyer
All Terrain FS
love the bike great service Eric always there to answer any questions does do 28mph but be prepared to pedal!!!
dave h.
Verified Buyer
All Terrain R750 HT
We took the bike to the beach and the bike rode perfectly.
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Mike M.
Verified Buyer
WD: All Terrain M600 FS
Bike came package very well, was easy to put everything together, first ride the gear set is not adjusted properly, will have to tune up before I go out again, bike works better than I expected on up hills, suspension is pretty good to out of the box, looking forward to putting more miles on it. Thanks Mike.
Louis H.
Verified Buyer
All Terrain FS
Love my bike, although I got some kind of weird noise coming from the rear but Eric and M2S is a pleasure to work with.
Thomas Fellows
Verified Buyer
All Terrain FS
Just unboxed my new Kush All Terrain. Beautifully packaged and a snap to set up. The engineering and quality of this bike is stunning! I would say world class. They even include a Mr Gagget tool set that includes every tool you need to assemble and maintain the bike.
The first ride was exactly as I expected after watching Eric's cool marketing video. If you like Eric's video, you will love this bike.
Can't wait to get get this state of the art machine out on the trails this weekend and see if it's possible to break it.
This may be the most fun toy I've ever purchased and at 62 I've had a few. I'll keep you posted.
Best of luck to Eric and M2S Bikes on finally launching this well done line of work class ebike. Thank you Eric. Good on ya mate!
Tom Fellows
The first ride was exactly as I expected after watching Eric's cool marketing video. If you like Eric's video, you will love this bike.
Can't wait to get get this state of the art machine out on the trails this weekend and see if it's possible to break it.
This may be the most fun toy I've ever purchased and at 62 I've had a few. I'll keep you posted.
Best of luck to Eric and M2S Bikes on finally launching this well done line of work class ebike. Thank you Eric. Good on ya mate!
Tom Fellows
Annette C.
Verified Buyer
XC Sport Max | Electric Commuter Bike
I went to e-bike expos, local e-bike stores and did a lot of on line research. I wanted an e-bike to ride 9 miles up and down some hilly terrain to work. I previously rode my bike 2 miles, hopped the train w my bike and rode 1 more mile to work. Parking at work is a nightmare. I actually bought another bike, rode it for two days and returned it. I then called Eric and ordered the bike. It was hard to wait for it to arrive. We also had a glitch, that honestly was pretty frustrating. The speed sensing magnet did not come w the bike. I contacted Eric and he sent one out right away. The bonus of dealing w M2S bikes is how very responsive they are. The downside is you can’t test ride them. All that said, it is a very good bike. It has loads of power for the hills, I haven’t had to charge it yet - the battery really lasts. Even though, as an e-bike its heavier, I can still carry it up the stairs. I wish the handlebars could raise up. Even though it’s not a fat tire bike, it has some pretty hefty tires, a really nice rear rack and a great front fork suspension. The disk brakes are really strong too. The price is much better than other e-bikes. I’d buy it again.
Nellis S.
Verified Buyer
New bike purchase battery upgrade
Order a Alltrain in Feb ,got it in Mar,Eric was great at answering back with any concerns I had .Was great at making sure I had tracking number to follow the bikes arrival.The bike is very powerful,I've ridden it to work ,road it on our beach,and back country trails.The handle bar is set up nicely with the controls.Was easy to assemble.The only complaint or suggestion for future design on the battery is the rubber plug to cover the charging outlet is hard to insert after charging .Should maybe put a flap that slides side to side.That being said the service ,product,communication was excellant.
Benny Can
Verified Buyer
WD: All Terrain M600 FS
I received the bike as promised from a trucking company Old Dominion. Chris the proprietor of M2S bikes had spoken to me a few days ago and had told me UPS or FedEx really do not do a good job on handling their freight which is why they went through Old Dominion.
I can attest to that. The truck driver was very courteous and handled the box with kid gloves. Kudos for M2S bike for that.
The bike
The bike came with unexpected goodies such as a bell with built in compass that points to one direction (doesn't work), head and tail lights as well as fenders. The bike has some parts that surprised me like the fork is a thru axle which is a big positive for me. The front and rear shock are really basic shocks although the fork has a lot more options in tweaking the compression and lockout. The rear shock has two air chambers for adjustments. I haven’t tweaked any of them yet so I cannot comment on them.
It’s a 19” frame with an aggressive design. It came with a flat bar which I need to change as well as a long stem (wish it was adjustable) to fit my 5”7 ¾” height. It came with a 42t chainring with a bash guard and a basic flat pedals that has a non-replaceable spikes. It comes with a 27.2 mm zoom seat post and a Velo saddle which actually feels comfortable on my initial test ride. It came with the stock 36 volt 14 ah battery. I tried to upgrade it to the 17ah but didn’t happened. I honestly thing it's the same size as the FLX model but cannot guaranty that.
The ride
I went to a small bike/walking trail near my house to do a test ride. The whole trail is very close to one full mile around the block. I wanted to see how a torque sensor motor compares to a cadence or speed sensor bike. The test is basically done with riding the full block on one level of pedal assist and slowly increasing. There are a total of six levels if you include zero which is basically no pedal assist. I’m testing the bike only on one gear which is the highest gear. Also the bike has ten gears so I rode the whole test on the 10th gear. I'd like to add that shifting gears is flawless, I didn't hear or hear any grinding. I didn't cringe whenever I shift gears on my first run.
Start the machine
My first go around. I rode with trying the feel of the bike, changing gears randomly switching different levels and hitting the brakes at random. The bike feels quite large for my stature but I kept riding to see how it feels right now before I make the changes. I was really surprised on how responsive the motor was. I don’t really feel the motor kicking like my previous FLX bike. The moment I start pedaling the motor starts helping. The motor is very quiet, so quiet that I don’t even hear it running, I hear the tires more than the motor. Speaking of tires they’re Maxxis Minion DHR II, they’re knobby tires but surprisingly they sound very quiet compared to the Kenda tires I had with the FLX Attack model. They roll fast too. Overall a very quiet motor and tires is a great combination for this dual sport full suspension bike. I had set the LCD screen set to see wattage level to get an idea on how much power the motor is kicking out to assist. The front brakes has what feels like a grinding sound, I’m going to keep riding it hoping it’s maybe because it’s new and I have to break it in.
My son tried it before my ride and actually asked me. “Is the motor turned on?” I asked “why”. He said “I don’t hear or feel anything.” I said “I have it on level 3.” He said “wow, no wonder I was riding very fast, I thought you turned it off!”
Pedal assist levels
Before I start with this I have to describe the riding condition. During the ride it was unfortunately (maybe a good thing for the test) windy. The wind gust was at 18mph, half of the trail I pick up the tail wind and the other half I’m riding against it. There was a point on the trail, the wind was pushing me to the right while I was turning. The trail is basically flat with no hills. The pedal assist is very responsive, as soon as I stop pedaling it will go to zero watts and comes back alive as soon as I start kicking the pedals without delay. I don’t feel the kicks when it starts or stop like my old FLX attack, there was no lag at all.
Level one
I noticed that the watt is running around 20 to 40 but looks very steady at 20 watts. I was cruising around 10mph riding against the wind surprisingly with ease and about 14 up to 16mph with tail winds. I was really surprised on how easy I can get it to the 16mpg speed, wow is all I can say.
Level two
Wattage, it went from 20 to 100 up to 150 watts but averages 100 watts. I went up to 12mph against the headwind and about 19mph with the tailwind easily.
Level three
Wattage went up to 200 up to 240 but 200 was the steady average. Speed kicked up to about 14mph with headwind and 22mph tailwind pushing me. Really easy ride felt like I was not on the highest gear at all.
Level four
Wattage is now getting higher, rage of 300 up to 450 but averages at 380. Now we’re talking. Speed started going to about 16mph with headwind and 25mph tail wind behind me. I was flying already with walkers (not zombies) I’m trying to avoid.
Level five
Finally the last level. Wattage was more jumpy it went from around 400 up to 700 (at one point that I saw) but it averages around 480 watts. Now I was riding around 18mph with headwind and it really felt like I was riding the bike in mid gear like gear six (out of 10 gears) with ease. With the tail wind behind me I maxed out at 29mph without any effort at all. I believe if I change the chainring to a 46t or even a 52t, I can get it up to 30 to 32mph speed without any effort. Total ride was 18 miles, I did ride around town more after. I was enjoying the bike so much! I ended up with half the battery left so I could go maybe another 10 to 20 more miles.
From my observations it seems like the pedal assist levels off at a certain range and stays that way. I believe it’s between 100 to 150 watts increase per level. I could not feel or hear the motor at all, there a small force that I feel once I start pedaling. Compared to my previous FLX. Since this bike has a combination of torque and speed sensors. The motor reacts quickly without the jerking feeling at all, even with sudden stops or starts. I don’t feel any play on the pedals like my previous FLX bike.
Conclusion
The bike is pretty large for someone my height but can be adjusted with changing some parts. Stock parts are actually good but I know I will eventually change some of them. It is a good starting point though. As for the motor. Boy what can I say? The ride is exhilarating, even without the throttle I can ride this bike with ease and no jumping of the motor even at high speed or sudden stops. The whole ride was on the highest gear but it felt like I was on the middle gear and just cruising. Suspension was good but needs tweaking. The bike ride is night and day compared to my previous FLX Attack model. I was glad I switch to this bike. Some people might say I’m bias against my older bike. All I can say is “some people are happy with what they have until they try something else and they will say… boy I should have tried or done this earlier!” On to my next bike. Please come back for more. My next one will be a Fat bike, don’t have a brand decided yet, seriously looking at two brands. I hope this review helps. I welcome comments anytime. Thank you for reading, happy riding!
I can attest to that. The truck driver was very courteous and handled the box with kid gloves. Kudos for M2S bike for that.
The bike
The bike came with unexpected goodies such as a bell with built in compass that points to one direction (doesn't work), head and tail lights as well as fenders. The bike has some parts that surprised me like the fork is a thru axle which is a big positive for me. The front and rear shock are really basic shocks although the fork has a lot more options in tweaking the compression and lockout. The rear shock has two air chambers for adjustments. I haven’t tweaked any of them yet so I cannot comment on them.
It’s a 19” frame with an aggressive design. It came with a flat bar which I need to change as well as a long stem (wish it was adjustable) to fit my 5”7 ¾” height. It came with a 42t chainring with a bash guard and a basic flat pedals that has a non-replaceable spikes. It comes with a 27.2 mm zoom seat post and a Velo saddle which actually feels comfortable on my initial test ride. It came with the stock 36 volt 14 ah battery. I tried to upgrade it to the 17ah but didn’t happened. I honestly thing it's the same size as the FLX model but cannot guaranty that.
The ride
I went to a small bike/walking trail near my house to do a test ride. The whole trail is very close to one full mile around the block. I wanted to see how a torque sensor motor compares to a cadence or speed sensor bike. The test is basically done with riding the full block on one level of pedal assist and slowly increasing. There are a total of six levels if you include zero which is basically no pedal assist. I’m testing the bike only on one gear which is the highest gear. Also the bike has ten gears so I rode the whole test on the 10th gear. I'd like to add that shifting gears is flawless, I didn't hear or hear any grinding. I didn't cringe whenever I shift gears on my first run.
Start the machine
My first go around. I rode with trying the feel of the bike, changing gears randomly switching different levels and hitting the brakes at random. The bike feels quite large for my stature but I kept riding to see how it feels right now before I make the changes. I was really surprised on how responsive the motor was. I don’t really feel the motor kicking like my previous FLX bike. The moment I start pedaling the motor starts helping. The motor is very quiet, so quiet that I don’t even hear it running, I hear the tires more than the motor. Speaking of tires they’re Maxxis Minion DHR II, they’re knobby tires but surprisingly they sound very quiet compared to the Kenda tires I had with the FLX Attack model. They roll fast too. Overall a very quiet motor and tires is a great combination for this dual sport full suspension bike. I had set the LCD screen set to see wattage level to get an idea on how much power the motor is kicking out to assist. The front brakes has what feels like a grinding sound, I’m going to keep riding it hoping it’s maybe because it’s new and I have to break it in.
My son tried it before my ride and actually asked me. “Is the motor turned on?” I asked “why”. He said “I don’t hear or feel anything.” I said “I have it on level 3.” He said “wow, no wonder I was riding very fast, I thought you turned it off!”
Pedal assist levels
Before I start with this I have to describe the riding condition. During the ride it was unfortunately (maybe a good thing for the test) windy. The wind gust was at 18mph, half of the trail I pick up the tail wind and the other half I’m riding against it. There was a point on the trail, the wind was pushing me to the right while I was turning. The trail is basically flat with no hills. The pedal assist is very responsive, as soon as I stop pedaling it will go to zero watts and comes back alive as soon as I start kicking the pedals without delay. I don’t feel the kicks when it starts or stop like my old FLX attack, there was no lag at all.
Level one
I noticed that the watt is running around 20 to 40 but looks very steady at 20 watts. I was cruising around 10mph riding against the wind surprisingly with ease and about 14 up to 16mph with tail winds. I was really surprised on how easy I can get it to the 16mpg speed, wow is all I can say.
Level two
Wattage, it went from 20 to 100 up to 150 watts but averages 100 watts. I went up to 12mph against the headwind and about 19mph with the tailwind easily.
Level three
Wattage went up to 200 up to 240 but 200 was the steady average. Speed kicked up to about 14mph with headwind and 22mph tailwind pushing me. Really easy ride felt like I was not on the highest gear at all.
Level four
Wattage is now getting higher, rage of 300 up to 450 but averages at 380. Now we’re talking. Speed started going to about 16mph with headwind and 25mph tail wind behind me. I was flying already with walkers (not zombies) I’m trying to avoid.
Level five
Finally the last level. Wattage was more jumpy it went from around 400 up to 700 (at one point that I saw) but it averages around 480 watts. Now I was riding around 18mph with headwind and it really felt like I was riding the bike in mid gear like gear six (out of 10 gears) with ease. With the tail wind behind me I maxed out at 29mph without any effort at all. I believe if I change the chainring to a 46t or even a 52t, I can get it up to 30 to 32mph speed without any effort. Total ride was 18 miles, I did ride around town more after. I was enjoying the bike so much! I ended up with half the battery left so I could go maybe another 10 to 20 more miles.
From my observations it seems like the pedal assist levels off at a certain range and stays that way. I believe it’s between 100 to 150 watts increase per level. I could not feel or hear the motor at all, there a small force that I feel once I start pedaling. Compared to my previous FLX. Since this bike has a combination of torque and speed sensors. The motor reacts quickly without the jerking feeling at all, even with sudden stops or starts. I don’t feel any play on the pedals like my previous FLX bike.
Conclusion
The bike is pretty large for someone my height but can be adjusted with changing some parts. Stock parts are actually good but I know I will eventually change some of them. It is a good starting point though. As for the motor. Boy what can I say? The ride is exhilarating, even without the throttle I can ride this bike with ease and no jumping of the motor even at high speed or sudden stops. The whole ride was on the highest gear but it felt like I was on the middle gear and just cruising. Suspension was good but needs tweaking. The bike ride is night and day compared to my previous FLX Attack model. I was glad I switch to this bike. Some people might say I’m bias against my older bike. All I can say is “some people are happy with what they have until they try something else and they will say… boy I should have tried or done this earlier!” On to my next bike. Please come back for more. My next one will be a Fat bike, don’t have a brand decided yet, seriously looking at two brands. I hope this review helps. I welcome comments anytime. Thank you for reading, happy riding!
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